Adélaïde van Oudenaarde1180–
| Birth | about 1180 25 |
| Birth of a brother | Arnold van Oudenaarde 1180 |
| Death of a maternal grandfather | Evrard III Radulf de Mortagne March 7, 1190 (Age 10 years) |
| Death of a paternal grandfather | Arnulf III van Oudenaarde 1198 (Age 18 years) |
| Marriage | Englebert IV d’ Enghien — View this family about 1200 (Age 20 years) |
| Birth of a daughter #1 | Mahaut d’ Enghien about 1203 (Age 23 years) |
| Death of a father | Giselbrecht van Oudenaarde 1212 (Age 32 years) |
| Birth of a granddaughter #1 | Peronne de Mortagne before 1218 (Age 38 years) |
| Death of a daughter | Mahaut d’ Enghien about 1218 (Age 38 years) |
| Death of a mother | Richilde de Mortagne de Tournai 1219 (Age 39 years) |
| Death of a brother | Arnold van Oudenaarde 1242 (Age 62 years) |
| Death of a husband | Englebert IV d’ Enghien February 25, 1250 (Age 70 years) |
| Death | yes |
| Family with parents |
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Giselbrecht van Oudenaarde Birth: 1155 30 Death: 1212 |
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Marriage: — |
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Arnold van Oudenaarde Birth: 1180 25 Death: 1242 |
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1 year herself |
Adélaïde van Oudenaarde Birth: about 1180 25 — Oudenaarde Death: |
| Mother’s family with Walter III de Sotteghem |
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Walter III de Sotteghem Birth: Death: 1212 |
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Marriage: — |
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| half-sister |
Aleidis de Sotteghem Birth: Death: |
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| Family with Englebert IV d’ Enghien |
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| herself |
Adélaïde van Oudenaarde Birth: about 1180 25 — Oudenaarde Death: |
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Marriage: about 1200 — |
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4 years daughter |
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| Englebert IV d’ Enghien + Aelis d’ Avesnes |
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Marriage: February 1205 — |
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11 months step-son |
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| Note | Birth
source http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf
Englebert III d'Enghien ´ ~1160 + 23/02/1244 (teste 03/1225) chevalier, seigneur d'Enghien
ép. 1) ~1200 Ide (Adelaïde, Adelheide) d'Audenaerde ´ ~1185
(fille d'Arnould III ou de Gilbert II et de Richilde van Peteghem ; demi-soeur d'Alix
de Zotteghem, épouse de Sohier d'Enghien)
ép. 2) Ide d'Avesnes ´ ~1180 + 23/09 ou 19/10/1217 (fille de Jacques et d'Améline
de Guise (ou d'Henri, Châtelain de Mons-en-Havré ?)
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#IsabelleEnghienMEverardTournai
There is confusion concerning the wife or wives of Engelbert [III]. The sources quoted below indicate that Adelaide d'Avesnes was the mother of his oldest son and of his daughter Isabelle, and that Ida was his wife between 1204 and 1215. Butkens (without citing any primary sources) reverses the order of these names, with "Ide d'Avesnes" as his first wife and "Adelive d'Oudenaerden" (sister of "Gisbert Sire d'Audenarde", by whom he was childless) as his second. One possibilityis that Engelbert married only once, his wife being known both as Adelaide and as Ida. No primary source has been identified which indicates that either of his wives was a member of the Oudenaarde family.
m [firstly] ADELAIDE d'Avesnes, daughter of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adeline de Guise (-[before 1204]). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that "tertia?filia?Adeluya" married "domino de Enghien Engelberto".
m [secondly] IDA, daughter of --- (-after 1215). "Ingelbertus de Aenguien et uxor eius Ida" pledged "decime...in tota parrochia et territorio de Herines" to Saint-Aubert abbey, with the consent of "dominorum suorum Egidii de Hallut, Razonisde Gavre junioris", by charter dated Feb 1204 (O.S.). "Engelbertus dominus d'Angien" confirmed "decimæ in parochia de Breges" to "ecclesiæ B. Mariæ in Cantiprato", with the consent of "uxore mea Ida et filiis meis Sigero et Jacobo", by charter dated 1215.
Engelbert [III] & his [first] wife had two children:
SOHIER dþEnghien (-after 13 Jun 1259)
ISABELLE dþEnghien (-1218 or after)
Engelbert [III] & his [first/second] wife had three children:
JACQUES d'Enghien (-[Apr 1222/1223]).
HUGUES d'Enghien (-after 17 Jul 1229).
ADELUYE dþEnghien (-after 1225).
Source: https://gw.geneanet.org/hanro?lang=en&pz=loic+robert+jean+marie&nz=hannaert&p=adelaide+adelheide+ou+ide&n=van+oudenaarde |
| Note | Birth
source http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf
Englebert III d'Enghien ´ ~1160 + 23/02/1244 (teste 03/1225) chevalier, seigneur d'Enghien
ép. 1) ~1200 Ide (Adelaïde, Adelheide) d'Audenaerde ´ ~1185
(fille d'Arnould III ou de Gilbert II et de Richilde van Peteghem ; demi-soeur d'Alix
de Zotteghem, épouse de Sohier d'Enghien)
ép. 2) Ide d'Avesnes ´ ~1180 + 23/09 ou 19/10/1217 (fille de Jacques et d'Améline
de Guise (ou d'Henri, Châtelain de Mons-en-Havré ?)
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#IsabelleEnghienMEverardTournai
There is confusion concerning the wife or wives of Engelbert [III]. The sources quoted below indicate that Adelaide d'Avesnes was the mother of his oldest son and of his daughter Isabelle, and that Ida was his wife between 1204 and 1215. Butkens (without citing any primary sources) reverses the order of these names, with "Ide d'Avesnes" as his first wife and "Adelive d'Oudenaerden" (sister of "Gisbert Sire d'Audenarde", by whom he was childless) as his second. One possibilityis that Engelbert married only once, his wife being known both as Adelaide and as Ida. No primary source has been identified which indicates that either of his wives was a member of the Oudenaarde family.
m [firstly] ADELAIDE d'Avesnes, daughter of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adeline de Guise (-[before 1204]). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that "tertia?filia?Adeluya" married "domino de Enghien Engelberto".
m [secondly] IDA, daughter of --- (-after 1215). "Ingelbertus de Aenguien et uxor eius Ida" pledged "decime...in tota parrochia et territorio de Herines" to Saint-Aubert abbey, with the consent of "dominorum suorum Egidii de Hallut, Razonisde Gavre junioris", by charter dated Feb 1204 (O.S.). "Engelbertus dominus d'Angien" confirmed "decimæ in parochia de Breges" to "ecclesiæ B. Mariæ in Cantiprato", with the consent of "uxore mea Ida et filiis meis Sigero et Jacobo", by charter dated 1215.
Engelbert [III] & his [first] wife had two children:
SOHIER dþEnghien (-after 13 Jun 1259)
ISABELLE dþEnghien (-1218 or after)
Engelbert [III] & his [first/second] wife had three children:
JACQUES d'Enghien (-[Apr 1222/1223]).
HUGUES d'Enghien (-after 17 Jul 1229).
ADELUYE dþEnghien (-after 1225).
Source: https://gw.geneanet.org/hanro?lang=en&pz=loic+robert+jean+marie&nz=hannaert&p=adelaide+adelheide+ou+ide&n=van+oudenaarde |